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Babies with uncomplicated reflux are often described as “happy chuckers”. These babies vomit or spill frequently, but are otherwise completely happy, sleep well, gain weight and have no other obvious reflux complications.
fed from a spoon before a breastfeed.These thickeners are all safe from birth. Try them one at a time. You will need to give them at each feed for about three days before you should try to decide if they are helping.Try these thickeners/formulas: Karicare Aptamil AR, S-26 AR, Karicare Food Thickener, Baby Rice, Cornflour (cooked).
|Try a dairy-free diet for Mum for up to 2 weeks*.||Try a non-dairy formula for one week**.|
|Check latching/feeding, flow of milk and position|
|Not working?||Not working?|
|Karicare Food Thickener or Baby Rice***.|
General Management Techniques
Raise the head of baby’s bassinet/cot and changing surface to 30 degrees. Raise the whole cot/bassinet rather than putting something under the mattress. Put feet at the end of the bed or use safe-t-sleep to keep face clear of covers.
Use a front pack, sling etc to keep baby upright when awake. A Hammock may be useful.
Winding/burping regularly (preferably high on the shoulder with a nice straight body to allow the wind to escape more easily).
Avoid pressure on tummy at all times.
Wrapping for sleep.
Sleep pattern in place.
Avoid “crying it out” as crying worsens gastric reflux and is distressing to family. Bad sleep behaviours do not develop and sleep patterns are easily established once gastric reflux is adequately controlled.
Pacifier/dummy like NUK brown rubber teat (this is only an option if LMC and Parents are comfortable with it). Sucking gives comfort but feeding continuously may exacerbate or encourage more GR episodes so this is where a dummy can be a helpful tool.
|As a last resort, the medication Gaviscon Infant and/or a motility medication may be prescribed. However, neither of these will consistently reduce/stop the vomiting in every baby tried on them. They may also have unwelcome side effects. Infant Gaviscon may cause constipation; with motility medications stomach cramps, diarrhoea and headache are common.||All happy chuckers will outgrow the vomiting/spilling with time. Many parents make a decision just to “ride it out”. There may be long term benefits to these babies for doing this.|
- If you have a child who gets both pain from reflux and vomits/spills, you will need to refer to the charts showing treatment options for both “Managing GORD” and the “Happy Chucker”.
- However, an important point to note is that with babies who get pain from reflux as well as vomit, it is important to control the pain and acid first before considering the use of thickeners or thickened formulas. When the pain/acid is under control with appropriate acid reducing medications, then try the options on the ‘Happy Chucker’ chart. Babies who get pain due to reflux all have some degree of oesophagitis (inflammation/ulceration of the oesophagus). Studies have shown that although thickeners and thickened formula may reduce the number of episodes they prolong the length of time of the remaining episodes as thickened fluid does not drain as well from the oesophagus. It is these prolonged reflux episodes, when they contain acid that can do the most damage.
*The time frames mentioned for this diet is the length of time that the diet should be trialled for by the breastfeeding mother before deciding that it is not helping and before returning to a normal diet. The dairy free diet needs to be a complete removal of these foods as cheating does matter. A positive response may be seen earlier than the time frame indicated. If the baby has started solids then these also need to be free of dairy. If the diet is successful in resolving symptoms then it needs to be continued or another form of feeding considered. Breastfeeding is nearly always best for the baby with gastric reflux but the mother’s health is also important, so consider this decision carefully with the help of a paediatrician for future feeding options.
**There are three options for non cow’s milk based formulas.
- Soy based formulas are not recommended when soy is the only source of nutrition. Therefore, a child who is bottle fed only (with no solids) would be best not to be on a soy formula.
- Goat milk formula is often effective in children with reflux problems due to cow’s milk protein intolerance. (Opinions vary about the suitability of goat’s milk due to the proteins being similar to cow’s milk so this may need to be discussed with your health professional.)
- Hypoallergenic formulas are best recommended by a paediatrician as a special authority number is required to receive these subsidised (otherwise they are around $100 per tin).
See our fact sheet on “Infant feeding” for more information or phone Nutricia on 0800 258 268 to speak to a Dietician. If the baby has started solids then these also need to be free of dairy.
***Please check the ingredients as some brands of rice cereals, contains milk products.
© Gastric Reflux Association for the Support of Parents/babies (GRASP) and Crying Over Spilt Milk Gastric Reflux Support Network New Zealand for Parents of Infants and Children Charitable Trust (GRSNNZ) 2004. Used and edited by GRSNNZ with permission. Last updated August 2014.
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does a thickener help for Elecare formula? It seems to be so thin and my little granddaughter is spilling a lot with this formula.Would welcome your feedback thanks
Christchurch people - there is a new post from someone needing help finding Karicare Aptamil Food Thickener. If you know where to find it, can you please reply on their post?
Does anyone in CHCH know where to find the formula thickener for Elecare formula?? My wee one has just been put onto Elecare and I am finding it needs to be a bit thicker as she is bringing up a lot just like the breast milk. Not all pharmacies sell it
After some advice, I have a 10 week old with possible silent reflux ( just started gaviscon) we are wanting to progress to help him achieve self settling. Does anyone have any methods that worked? Absolutely no comfort in patting and shushing... Or am I asking too much from my little man that finds a lot of comfort in being rocked to sleep?
Hi all, Just wondering if someone could confirm for me that going dairy free means you can still have non cows milk products like sheep or goat products? I read the spilt milk site and seems to be a cows milk protein issues, not other types of animal products? I just ate sheeps feta then second guessed if it's OK.
My 16 month old just saw an allergist today and he told me it sounded like he had reflux. He had it as an infant but around 9 months he stopped needing meds and was fine, but now this winter he has stayed sick! So I'm really trying hard to wrap my head around this... I feel like my baby has been sick for months (stuffy, sneezing, coughing, wheezing, fever.. the list goes on and on) and it's just reflux! I mean if that's the case I guess I'm relieved because that seems like a simple fix. I just feel like he's really been suffering. His pedi was thinking he had asthma and sinus infections. The allergist did swab his nose to see if anything comes back on it but for now he is just taking nexxium(sp?) and a nasal spray.
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I asked for a script for infant gaviscon and was given Acidex. Whats the difference?
Hoping for a bit of help/more advice. My now 8 week old baby has what we believe to be silent reflux, no one has actually diagnosed her with it, but have been given meds to help. She definitely regurgitates milk, and sometimes projectile vomits (she has only started doing this recently). I am getting so lost of what to do next, we have another appointment with the GP on Thursday, but in the mean time would love any advice on what I can do to help her.
We started out on Infant Gaviscon, which didn't help much at all. Then onto Ranitidine, which didn't help either. We got prescribed Losec by my GP to use with gaviscon. Which seemed to help for two weeks, but now she is back to being so unsettled and unhappy. From birth she could only ever drink a small amount before she got really uncomfortable and started screaming, I started expressing to get an idea of what she is really drinking, which turned out to be bugger all, this was why i was feeding her 20 odd ml every 1/2 hr to an hour. I'm doing everything I can to help her, have got the bassinet head raised, burp after what seems to be every mouthful! I wear her in my wrap a fair bit during the day for some of her naps.
I took her to the osteopath last week, and her said she was very sore and had a very tight diaphragm. Two nights later she slept 6 hours! But the next night she was back to a couple of hours at a time. I have another appointment on Thursday.
As I have a 20 1/2 month old toddler and, expressing got too much as I could never find the time to do it, so now have her on Karicare Formula, which i'm not 100% sure if this is upsetting her stomach aswell. She was induced at 38 weeks as they were concerned about her growth, she was 6lb 3 oz at birth.
What would be the best formula to have her on? She is still currently on losec and gaviscon. AND how can I ease the screaming after every feed? I'm really starting to stress alot about it and find myself getting pretty emotional.
Thanks and sorry for the long story!
Hi everyone, my daughter had severe gerd up until about 9 months and was treated with losec and gaviscon and eurthymician (sp). Four about 3 months she was really good, not needing any meds at all so we weened her off them. She has been med free for about 6 months, but the past two months we are back to screaming and crying every hour each night ( was previously a good night sleeper!) very unsettled etc, but no vomit . My question is can reflux suddenly come back ?
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Please help i am desperate! My wee 9 week old is under a paediatrician forbreflux and a maybe dairy allergy. My milk supply is starring to drop and she has been given Elecare but she refuses to drink it. Have tried vanilla essence and mixing it with my breast milk but still no luck. Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated 😊
Hi. I am having real trouble settling my 9 week old baby, especially at night. I would like to wean her off me and have tried both pepti Jr and neocate but no luck. Also on ranitidine for refulx. Am i just best to breast feed or is there other options?
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I don't know if this is the right site but my mum is being treated for reflux which has brought on burning mouth syndrome.
All her food tasted awful and was wondering if anyone has any tips if dealing or getting rid of this?
Thank you x
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I'm hoping someone here can share their experience with me as I'm at my wits end. My daughter is nearly 11 months old and has had chronic vomiting since she was about 5-6 months old (full feed vomits till there was nothing left, gagging, up to 9 times in 24hrs). After no doctors taking me seriously, and seeing 3 different doctors we finally got a barium swallow test done after taking her to the hospital out of desperation and it showed that she has severe reflux. I have accidentally eliminated gluten which has helped immensely but we still get 2-3 vomits a day. I'm waiting to hear from a paediatric doctor at the hospital for a follow up after the test but I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this and what eventually helped? Or was it a case of managing it until they grow out of it? She was given liquid omeprazole a week ago but that only made it worse so i stopped giving it to her. Thanks in advance x
My sons 3 months, we've been in hospital his whole life but hoping to go home in next couple of days. He has liquad omeprozol via NG, i've heard that you have to pick it up from the pharmacy really reguarly be because once made up it looses it effectiveness quickly. How often do i need to get it made up?
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My 7 week old has reflux. We went to see the paediatrician yesterday and he gave us Pepti Jr to try. Im dairy free as still partially breast feeding. He also prescribed neocate as a back up. Just wondering on anyone's thoughts about pepti jr as have heard alot of people haven't had any luck on it.
Help please. Our 4 month old suffers from silent reflux, he's been on omeprazole for 2 months now. Initially we saw significant improvement (different baby!). Unfortunately, things have really started to plateau (worsen) over the last week. We have had 3 consecutive nights of holding him right throughout the entire night. Any attempt to move him from being held completely upright see's him wake within seconds and start screaming in pain. It's harrowing. We have been advised by our Dr to increase his dose to (20mg) he's currently on (15mg). I'm really concerned as I feel there's going to be nowhere left to go if he doesn't grow out of the reflux soon :( Has anyone switched medicine from omeprazole to something else with good results? Can anyone please recommend a good paediatrician in the Auckland area who specialises in reflux? We're feeling a bit gutted in this household as we thought things were under control but definitely not the case at the moment :(