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Babies with uncomplicated reflux are often described as “happy chuckers”. These babies vomit or spill frequently, but are otherwise completely happy, sleep well, gain weight and have no other obvious reflux complications.
fed from a spoon before a breastfeed.These thickeners are all safe from birth. Try them one at a time. You will need to give them at each feed for about three days before you should try to decide if they are helping.Try these thickeners/formulas: Karicare Aptamil AR, S-26 AR, Karicare Food Thickener, Baby Rice, Cornflour (cooked).
|Try a dairy-free diet for Mum for up to 2 weeks*.||Try a non-dairy formula for one week**.|
|Check latching/feeding, flow of milk and position|
|Not working?||Not working?|
|Karicare Food Thickener or Baby Rice***.|
General Management Techniques
Raise the head of baby’s bassinet/cot and changing surface to 30 degrees. Raise the whole cot/bassinet rather than putting something under the mattress. Put feet at the end of the bed or use safe-t-sleep to keep face clear of covers.
Use a front pack, sling etc to keep baby upright when awake. A Hammock may be useful.
Winding/burping regularly (preferably high on the shoulder with a nice straight body to allow the wind to escape more easily).
Avoid pressure on tummy at all times.
Wrapping for sleep.
Sleep pattern in place.
Avoid “crying it out” as crying worsens gastric reflux and is distressing to family. Bad sleep behaviours do not develop and sleep patterns are easily established once gastric reflux is adequately controlled.
Pacifier/dummy like NUK brown rubber teat (this is only an option if LMC and Parents are comfortable with it). Sucking gives comfort but feeding continuously may exacerbate or encourage more GR episodes so this is where a dummy can be a helpful tool.
|As a last resort, the medication Gaviscon Infant and/or a motility medication may be prescribed. However, neither of these will consistently reduce/stop the vomiting in every baby tried on them. They may also have unwelcome side effects. Infant Gaviscon may cause constipation; with motility medications stomach cramps, diarrhoea and headache are common.||All happy chuckers will outgrow the vomiting/spilling with time. Many parents make a decision just to “ride it out”. There may be long term benefits to these babies for doing this.|
- If you have a child who gets both pain from reflux and vomits/spills, you will need to refer to the charts showing treatment options for both “Managing GORD” and the “Happy Chucker”.
- However, an important point to note is that with babies who get pain from reflux as well as vomit, it is important to control the pain and acid first before considering the use of thickeners or thickened formulas. When the pain/acid is under control with appropriate acid reducing medications, then try the options on the ‘Happy Chucker’ chart. Babies who get pain due to reflux all have some degree of oesophagitis (inflammation/ulceration of the oesophagus). Studies have shown that although thickeners and thickened formula may reduce the number of episodes they prolong the length of time of the remaining episodes as thickened fluid does not drain as well from the oesophagus. It is these prolonged reflux episodes, when they contain acid that can do the most damage.
*The time frames mentioned for this diet is the length of time that the diet should be trialled for by the breastfeeding mother before deciding that it is not helping and before returning to a normal diet. The dairy free diet needs to be a complete removal of these foods as cheating does matter. A positive response may be seen earlier than the time frame indicated. If the baby has started solids then these also need to be free of dairy. If the diet is successful in resolving symptoms then it needs to be continued or another form of feeding considered. Breastfeeding is nearly always best for the baby with gastric reflux but the mother’s health is also important, so consider this decision carefully with the help of a paediatrician for future feeding options.
**There are three options for non cow’s milk based formulas.
- Soy based formulas are not recommended when soy is the only source of nutrition. Therefore, a child who is bottle fed only (with no solids) would be best not to be on a soy formula.
- Goat milk formula is often effective in children with reflux problems due to cow’s milk protein intolerance. (Opinions vary about the suitability of goat’s milk due to the proteins being similar to cow’s milk so this may need to be discussed with your health professional.)
- Hypoallergenic formulas are best recommended by a paediatrician as a special authority number is required to receive these subsidised (otherwise they are around $100 per tin).
See our fact sheet on “Infant feeding” for more information or phone Nutricia on 0800 258 268 to speak to a Dietician. If the baby has started solids then these also need to be free of dairy.
***Please check the ingredients as some brands of rice cereals, contains milk products.
© Gastric Reflux Association for the Support of Parents/babies (GRASP) and Crying Over Spilt Milk Gastric Reflux Support Network New Zealand for Parents of Infants and Children Charitable Trust (GRSNNZ) 2004. Used and edited by GRSNNZ with permission. Last updated August 2014.
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I know there is a message there from last week I haven't cleared too.
My daughter has been in hospital since Monday and we had several visits last week. I'll attend to the messages hopefully next week.
My 4 week old baby is on Ompreazole granules and we are going to start weaning him off in a few weeks to see how we go. I am considering starting him on probiotics to help this process. Can I give probiotics to a 4 week old or do I take them and he gets the benefit through my breastmilk? If I give it to him how do I administer it and what brand is best?
Alisha is now 3 1/2 months old, she is around 5 kg. We have had heaps of trouble with her. Put her on various medications and changes in my diet, then onto Neocate Formula with Losec Capsules. She has pretty much improved 100% from where she was a couple of months ago.
My question is, what quantity of formula does your baby drink and roughly how long inbetween? I've been trying to give her three hours inbetween each feeding which she can manage totally fine. But when food is offered she hardly drinks much in a sitting. I can usually get 100ml of formula into her over an hour, sometimes takes me longer.
Is this normal for a reflux baby??
Is infant gaviscon at all effective for 2.5 yesr old? my son reacts to ranitadine and omeprozole but has had a reflux flare up which is now resulting in vomiting after lying down in bed. He's even coughing and gaging on water during the day probably from the irritation in his throat etc. I'm having to wait quite some time after dinner to give him rice milk and again before attempting bed. It's pushing bedtime out too far with him not napping. Any suggestions? Can't pinpoint anything dietry wise that may be causing it.
Hi everyone. I'm after a bit of advice, my 20month old has recently commenced on liquid iron supplement (after we were told his iron levels are low from blood tests) but we've found its giving him a really sore tummy. Have tried halving the dose but I still have a tearful distressed little man on my hands. Does anyone have any ideas? Or can recommend something else.
Hi there, I'm wondering if someone could please advise me. I have been dairy free for 3 weeks today and introduced some back in today; just butter on one piece of toast and a splash of cows milk in 2 hot drinks. My daughter's been crying and not sleeping most of the day unless held. I've also been block feeding to try to prevent her choking etc on my fast flow, however Plunket advised I may like to rethink that now she's 8 weeks old so my supply doesn't diminish. She's a frequent feeder and I've managed to push her out to 2 1/2 hourly feeds over the last few weeks (on Plunket and Dr advice as they said her always feeding would make the reflux worse). She had been quite a bit better over the last week. Tonight I offered her the other breast at her feed as well, instead of the same one as usual and she had a good feed, so obviously needed it. But my goodness, the reflux has been really bad afterwards with lots of gagging and choking and pained crying etc etc (she's not much of a puker). I don't know if this is from having both breasts at the one feed (surely not) or she's super sensitive to the dairy? I'm wondering how long it will now take to see if there's improvement now that I've quit the dairy again? Please tell me it won't be a whole other 3 weeks again!! As I said, it was only a small amount reintroduced today.
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In all the reading I've done about reflux babies it seems common that they don't settle to sleep to well
During the day but will at night? Why is that?
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Interesting article on dreamfeeds:
Will ‘dream feeds’ work for your baby? Dorothy Waide shares her insights on this late night option.
does a thickener help for Elecare formula? It seems to be so thin and my little granddaughter is spilling a lot with this formula.Would welcome your feedback thanks
Christchurch people - there is a new post from someone needing help finding Karicare Aptamil Food Thickener. If you know where to find it, can you please reply on their post?
Does anyone in CHCH know where to find the formula thickener for Elecare formula?? My wee one has just been put onto Elecare and I am finding it needs to be a bit thicker as she is bringing up a lot just like the breast milk. Not all pharmacies sell it
After some advice, I have a 10 week old with possible silent reflux ( just started gaviscon) we are wanting to progress to help him achieve self settling. Does anyone have any methods that worked? Absolutely no comfort in patting and shushing... Or am I asking too much from my little man that finds a lot of comfort in being rocked to sleep?
Hi all, Just wondering if someone could confirm for me that going dairy free means you can still have non cows milk products like sheep or goat products? I read the spilt milk site and seems to be a cows milk protein issues, not other types of animal products? I just ate sheeps feta then second guessed if it's OK.
My 16 month old just saw an allergist today and he told me it sounded like he had reflux. He had it as an infant but around 9 months he stopped needing meds and was fine, but now this winter he has stayed sick! So I'm really trying hard to wrap my head around this... I feel like my baby has been sick for months (stuffy, sneezing, coughing, wheezing, fever.. the list goes on and on) and it's just reflux! I mean if that's the case I guess I'm relieved because that seems like a simple fix. I just feel like he's really been suffering. His pedi was thinking he had asthma and sinus infections. The allergist did swab his nose to see if anything comes back on it but for now he is just taking nexxium(sp?) and a nasal spray.
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I asked for a script for infant gaviscon and was given Acidex. Whats the difference?
Hoping for a bit of help/more advice. My now 8 week old baby has what we believe to be silent reflux, no one has actually diagnosed her with it, but have been given meds to help. She definitely regurgitates milk, and sometimes projectile vomits (she has only started doing this recently). I am getting so lost of what to do next, we have another appointment with the GP on Thursday, but in the mean time would love any advice on what I can do to help her.
We started out on Infant Gaviscon, which didn't help much at all. Then onto Ranitidine, which didn't help either. We got prescribed Losec by my GP to use with gaviscon. Which seemed to help for two weeks, but now she is back to being so unsettled and unhappy. From birth she could only ever drink a small amount before she got really uncomfortable and started screaming, I started expressing to get an idea of what she is really drinking, which turned out to be bugger all, this was why i was feeding her 20 odd ml every 1/2 hr to an hour. I'm doing everything I can to help her, have got the bassinet head raised, burp after what seems to be every mouthful! I wear her in my wrap a fair bit during the day for some of her naps.
I took her to the osteopath last week, and her said she was very sore and had a very tight diaphragm. Two nights later she slept 6 hours! But the next night she was back to a couple of hours at a time. I have another appointment on Thursday.
As I have a 20 1/2 month old toddler and, expressing got too much as I could never find the time to do it, so now have her on Karicare Formula, which i'm not 100% sure if this is upsetting her stomach aswell. She was induced at 38 weeks as they were concerned about her growth, she was 6lb 3 oz at birth.
What would be the best formula to have her on? She is still currently on losec and gaviscon. AND how can I ease the screaming after every feed? I'm really starting to stress alot about it and find myself getting pretty emotional.
Thanks and sorry for the long story!
Hi everyone, my daughter had severe gerd up until about 9 months and was treated with losec and gaviscon and eurthymician (sp). Four about 3 months she was really good, not needing any meds at all so we weened her off them. She has been med free for about 6 months, but the past two months we are back to screaming and crying every hour each night ( was previously a good night sleeper!) very unsettled etc, but no vomit . My question is can reflux suddenly come back ?
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Please help i am desperate! My wee 9 week old is under a paediatrician forbreflux and a maybe dairy allergy. My milk supply is starring to drop and she has been given Elecare but she refuses to drink it. Have tried vanilla essence and mixing it with my breast milk but still no luck. Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated 😊
Hi. I am having real trouble settling my 9 week old baby, especially at night. I would like to wean her off me and have tried both pepti Jr and neocate but no luck. Also on ranitidine for refulx. Am i just best to breast feed or is there other options?
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