Myths

THE MYTH
Changing from breastfeeding to bottle-feeding will permanently solve feeding problems in babies with reflux.

THE REALITY
Babies refusing to breastfeed due to reflux pain may temporarily feed from a bottle, but will eventually also refuse the bottle once they realise that bottle-feeds also lead to the same pain.


THE MYTH
If your baby/child sleeps and is settled for long periods (particularly at night), your child does not have reflux.

THE REALITY
pH studies (where reflux episodes are monitored over 24 hours) have indicated that even in cases of severe reflux, reflux episodes (particularly at night) may not necessarily wake the baby/ child. However, damage to the oesophagus over this time will still occur.


THE MYTH
Changing to a thickened formula is more effective in controlling vomiting in reflux than using thickeners with breastfeeds,

THE REALITY
Using a thickener before, during or after a breastfeed is just as effective as using a thickened formula. Karicare Food Thickener and plain baby rice are both suitable thickeners for use from birth with breastfeeds.


THE MYTH
Off-the-shelf thickened formulas are thick enough to control vomiting and reflux.

THE REALITY
Thickened formulas may not be thick enough for many babies. For these babies the feed may need to be thickened to the consistency of ‘sludge’ with either plain baby rice or ‘Karicare Food Thickener etc. and a fast flow teat used. This may seem unnatural for small babies but in reality is a very effective and safe solution.

Please note: thickeners are a valuable treatment for reflux vomiting, but may not be suitable for babies with oesophagitis.


THE MYTH
Babies that bring their knees up to their stomachs while crying have ‘colic’ or wind’ pain.

THE REALITY
Any baby will bring up its knees to its stomach when it is crying hard – this is not an indication of either ‘colic’ or ‘wind’ pain.


THE MYTH
If it is a girl it won’t have reflux.

THE REALITY
Girls get reflux too!!!! – although it is more common in boys.


THE MYTH
Once the symptoms of reflux are gone (or the child is upright and walking) they will not reoccur.

THE REALITY
Reflux symptoms may settle temporarily but worsen again if a child is ill, stressed, teething, crawling etc. It is common for symptoms (including vomiting) to come and go, particularly during the first two years of life.

For some children being upright more will be enough to reduce reflux, but for others it will continue.


THE MYTH
Reflux can be solved by upright positioning while sleeping, feeding etc.

THE REALITY
This is a management technique that helps but it is still possible to reflux. In fact, it is even possible for some babies/children to lie flat all night and not reflux at all, but to do the majority of their refluxing only while they are awake and upright.


THE MYTH
Uncomplicated reflux is a term to describe babies who don’t have obvious signs of the more serious reflux complications.

THE REALITY
‘Uncomplicated’ reflux is a term for babies who spill/vomit lots but are otherwise happy, settled, and healthy! Babies who suffer pain from reflux have a complication of reflux called oesophagitis (excessive crying and/or feeding or sleeping problems may be the only sign). These babies therefore have ‘complicated’ reflux, and if left untreated they may then go on to develop any of the more serious complications (i.e. anaemia, oesophageal scarring and strictures, failure to thrive, respiratory problems etc.)


THE MYTH.
Surgery (Fundoplication) is a cure for reflux.

THE REALITY
Just like medical treatment, surgery is merely a treatment, not a cure. Surgery can not correct the underlying cause of the reflux, and therefore, just as medical treatment, may fail at any time. It is major surgery with a long list of possible complications, which can be very severe. However, when reflux persists and presents life-threatening complications, the benefits of fundoplication may outweigh the risks. There are times when the surgery is necessary and appropriate, however, it should not be done just to avoid the hassles of lifestyle changes and medicines.


THE MYTH
Omeprazole granules can be given with milk or before a breastfeed.

THE REALITY
Giving Omeprazole granules with milk may significantly reduce its effectiveness. For best results give the granules with something acidic (i.e. fruit or fruit juice) and avoid giving close to a milk feed.


THE MYTH
Reflux is caused by depression.

THE REALITY
Reflux is DEPRESSING!!!


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    We started out on Infant Gaviscon, which didn't help much at all. Then onto Ranitidine, which didn't help either. We got prescribed Losec by my GP to use with gaviscon. Which seemed to help for two weeks, but now she is back to being so unsettled and unhappy. From birth she could only ever drink a small amount before she got really uncomfortable and started screaming, I started expressing to get an idea of what she is really drinking, which turned out to be bugger all, this was why i was feeding her 20 odd ml every 1/2 hr to an hour. I'm doing everything I can to help her, have got the bassinet head raised, burp after what seems to be every mouthful! I wear her in my wrap a fair bit during the day for some of her naps.

    I took her to the osteopath last week, and her said she was very sore and had a very tight diaphragm. Two nights later she slept 6 hours! But the next night she was back to a couple of hours at a time. I have another appointment on Thursday.

    As I have a 20 1/2 month old toddler and, expressing got too much as I could never find the time to do it, so now have her on Karicare Formula, which i'm not 100% sure if this is upsetting her stomach aswell. She was induced at 38 weeks as they were concerned about her growth, she was 6lb 3 oz at birth.

    What would be the best formula to have her on? She is still currently on losec and gaviscon. AND how can I ease the screaming after every feed? I'm really starting to stress alot about it and find myself getting pretty emotional.

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